db has a valid point. and while people may scream ,"free speech!", we must remember that db is totally within their rights to change their rules. after all, they are generous enough to offer a free board at all, considering all the moritoring, work, and general upkeep they must do to maintain the site. and they didn't remove it altogether, just go to the vip side if you want to post on it. taking into hand the extra work and effort they expend just to handle that one particular forum i think it's fitting that it's on the vip side as i believe that no one should be forced to work for free. in fact, i find the membership dues more than reasonable when you think about the returns. everyone should join if only to support the site. thank you db!

cheers, c.(angel)