Ok, then. With regards to your "inability" to join, I have a few exacting questions for you. 1) Exactly which payment option were you attempting to use, and at exactly which point when trying to use it were you kicked completely off of the entire internet? 2) What exactly do you mean by getting kicked off of the entire internet? Does your screen go black and your cable modem blow up or something? You seem to imply that your computer has something to do with it. Well then, join on another computer somewhere else in another house or another place, and then come back and log in from home. It'll work that way, if it is indeed just your personal computer and nobody elses. I don't know if I'm interpretting you correctly. Are you equating your inability to join the site with being treated "sh" by the site, or are you talking about something else?