flippie
(Member)
07/18/04 08:14 AM
Re: Ritalin - Methylphenidate

Although the DSM would probably refer to replying to one's own post to be some form of dissociative identity disorder, I forgot to mention something that might be mildly significant to the conversation.

Like many people, I take an SSRI daily (Paxil 30mg). I found out years ago that what I had read is correct - when you regularly take an SSRI, the drug Ecstasy will have almost no effect on you - the SSRI attaches it self to some of the same sites that the E wants to get to and blocks it. Not that I would want to because IMHO E is a "do it once learn what you can from it then grow up and move on" type drug, so no loss at all to me. All the less reason to worry about damanging my serotonergenic system in the longterm, which is what MDA neurotoxicity does (I know MDA is not MDMA, but a lot of MDMA/E sold on the streets IS MDA, and now, grotesquely enough, PMA - deadly stuff. During the one long-ago phase in my life when I was shooting a lot of meth, the needle-exchange lady who came out every month with 100 fresh points and a new sharps container said she used to shoot "Love Drug (MDA) in the 60s - s-h-e s-p-o-k-e l-i-k-e t-h-i-s to-you - she said her c10h12n2o levels were 40% lower than normal, so even though this is one isolated incident, it does demonstrate what NIDA has been saying about phenethylamine compounds for quite some time now - stay the hell away from them).

I won't get into the kids predosing with the 5HTP and Prozac, although there is some value to both.

So regular users of SSRIs won't get much/any effect (I could eat a gram of pure E and feel very little, except very uncomfortable) and since Ritalin IS chemically related (both being phenethylamines, meaning (naturally) that they are both aminoethylbenzene derivatives, I can't help but wonder if concurrent usage of Ritalin and an SSRI is either dangerous or at the least wasteful.

There is a LITTLE info here, but it is dated (note reference to DSM-IIIr)

http://www.biopsychiatry.com/methyl.htm

Anyway I just thought that might be worthy to mention. If you are a user of SSRIs you might think twice and then a third time about the potentially hazardous material called Ritalin. Besides, that chart in the URL I posted above I THINK showes current street prices. In the ghetto, Ritalin sell for $10 a pill.

Most people here seem to be well-educated and from all different walks of life, but I'd wager that most of you have read Brave New World. I want Huxley's Soma. The ultimate ecstasy drug with no bad side effects. Social and technical progress might slow - but we wouldn't care. Is that wrong? But that is a topic for another thread again...



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