I find vioxx uniquely strong among nsaids... however that's at the 50mg level. Terribly expensive. Celebrex does nothing for me... bextra works some too, but not as good as vioxx. IB or aspirin or daypro or other nsaids i have tried besides keterolac do nothing. Keterolac is some strong Best if kept off the board for an nsaid! too bad its so bad for the stomach... Worked great for me. Both the 50mg vioxx and keterolac kill pain better for me than norco, even two or three of 'em.