mattglv
(Newbie)
11/09/04 08:57 PM
Re: Drug test and OP's

It also depands on your employer. If you are non union they can fire you for having a clean urine, or, if they really want to fire you they can just fire you for not liking the color of your socks! Got it. If your not in a union or any specific laws in your state to protect you they can and do fire anybody they want, for what ever reason they want, and some places they don't need a reason. Especially when it's a pre employment test. Most states do not require a company to check and see if it is indeed a valid rx since you are not an employee yet.

It all depends on a lot of diffirent things. If you have a valid rx and you don't tell your boss you are using it. That can even get you fired. Most places have some kind of policy that states you need to tell them what your taking or if you are taking something that could impair your ability to do your job. And that usually also referrs to any OTC product.

At my job I have a CDL which means I must submit to Federally Mandated random drug and alcohol tests as per DOT. I'm in a strange kind of way lucky (not really). Because when I take a drug test it has to be done at a certified lab, with fedaral standards for every thing from the way they start the test until it's sent to a lab and checked. What's kinnda funny to is that if some how the MRO finds codiene or morphine and not heroin in my test. When he calls me up and I for whatever reason tell him I tested positive because I stoled someones vicodin, oxy, valium, or even xanax. Federal law prohibits him from telling my employer about using those drugs illegally, since under Federal law he is not testing for those drugs. Now thats the most insane thing I have every heard. But that is what the law says. Federal law for CDL holders also requires that the lab is prohibited from doing any other tests before they can do the CDL holders test, making it less likely to be contaminated from other samples. And believe me that is a good thing, because most employers only do pre employment drug testing so they can get either Federal or State funding, tax breaks, Insurance discounts (alot for insurance), or something else the goverment will either give or.... mostly Withhold...Like the way the federal goverment was able to raise the min. drinking age to 21. They where able to do that by telling all the states that if they don't raise the age to 21 then they would not recieve any highway funding.

So you can usually figure it's in the employers best intrest to drug test you....And the really F*#%ED UP thing is (not to mention your fourth and fith amendment rights about unlawfull searchs, and self incrimanation, and forget about your right of being innocent till proven guilty because with a drug test YOUR ARE GUILTY untill you prove otherwise, and god knows how much money) but most employers are going to do the cheapest drug test available to them. Why would they want to pay more money for something they don't need?? They wouldn't be in the game very long if thier always throwing money away.... All those cheapo tests are F...ing garbage. Some with false positives as high as 30%!!!!!!!!! Thats 3 people out of every 10 who can lose thier jobs for failing a drug test, and they don't even do drugs! Because most places aren't going to say " Would you like to come in and take another [censored] test on our dime, because the other one we gave you showed that you are on drugs, but we really think your not a drug addict" YEA RIGHT!

The drug tests I have to take run somewhere around $200 a pop and the labs testing the samples claim to have around a 98%-99% accuracy. Even that good of acurate tests (and that's assuming the entire chain of events is followed 100% accurate, but people do make mistakes)will still label aprox. 10,000 to 20,000 peolpe out of every million as a drug addict and ruin thier carrers, family, and life. But who gives a dam about them they use drugs, they shoudn't have any rights anyway.....That's their thinking! The cheap ones alot of places use maybe $20-$30 each and thats probally pushing it.

Sorry to post so much, but I could go on for days about this sick practice our country does to it's people.

Bottom line is YOU and EVERYONE should find out as much as you can about your companys rules and policies on drugs in the work place. And your state laws about them. So you can be well informed. The ACLU is a great place to be a member of and a wealth of information for your rights on drug tests. They have helped people in the past because of drug tests. They are also fighting for all of your childrens personal liberties by keeping drug tests out of elementry and middle schools. So the parent can be the parent and not the childs school.



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