i haven't read this whole thread, but i did read a newspaper about a week ago that a man in mass was arrested for ordering too many hydro's from op's; the article stated that the arrest was made after a month long investigation that involved stakeouts, looking through the trash and ups delivery schedules (ups was cooperating with the state police on it) the man was arrested and charged with possession, selling and obtaining meds by fraud, i don't think all these people are lying, maybe some are but it does happen; look up the kingston observer if you want to read the story or i'll copy and paste it when i have more time