buey
(Old Hand)
09/25/04 05:34 AM
Re: DEA RAIDS KENS DRUGS

While it is never a good idea to DD, I think this is all conjecture at this point. My guess is we will find out more as time goes by, however, look at the facts. They went after one pharmacy entity, Kens. This was an operation between Kentucky and Florida, which leads me to believe something happened in Kentucky. Someone may have ODed on a Ken's Drug script. There may have been a drug ring or individuals in KY diverting meds and they found bottles with that pharm name on them. The KY atty general's office ordered meds using one of the OPs that were serviced by Kens and perhaps KY residents have a law where they must be serviced by MDs licensed in KY. This happened in Illinois and that's why IL is currently in legal proceedings with the Dr and operator of one OP, can't remember the name of that one, but do a search for it. I think it is on this board.

Also, at least one of the Kens sites, lists drug prices. It is basically a point and click OP, owned by Kennady Clinic and serviced by Kens Pharmacy. That's against the new FL law. They are not allowed by law to be a consult servce and a pharmacy. The owner of Apothesys made a post on here when the law went into effect this year, explaining this. Look what happened to Dr. D. and Datamark. Because the doctor had an interest in the "pharmacy" they shut them down.

From what I have read, in order for the DEA to go after the patients, they have to educate the public. I have heard at one point, that they were going to be putting public servie announcements online. Say if you found an IOP on Google, and clicked on it. There would be a screen that came up stating it was against federal law to import meds via carrier into the US.

Right now the laws are very gray in this area. My guess is there will be legislation soon making OPs illegal or heavily regulating them. If that happens, I would take great heed. But our inboxes are being bombarded by spam from everyone selling everything from Viagra to hydrocodone. There has to be some sort of public awareness program. As of right now I really think they want to cut the meds off at the source; go after the big fish or those people who are diverting meds.

Unfortunately it is not impossible to take large amounts of medication for personal use regardless of the apap amount. Look at Rush Limbaugh and ask any drug rehab counselor. I think the feds have to have some proof that you are diverting meds for them to prosecute. There are literally thousands of people using OPs and my guess is a lot of them DD. I am NOT condoning DDing, just being realistic. How many people have come on these boards and have to order from a no records OP in a pinch because of one reason or another? Tons.

If the DEA wanted to catch individuals it would be very easy to do, and would not involve raiding a Kens Drug chain. They could go after the mysterious pharmacy servicing the point and click OPs; all those affiliates using the same pharmacy that do not require records.



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