flippie
(Member)
07/15/04 10:20 PM
Re: Discussions on DB affect OP Raids?

I am not arguing your overall point, I agree 100% but I was a member of Hive for years, and...well, long story short, the board was not taken down, nor did it have anything to do with the arrests that resulted.

I don't know how much is public information and what is not so I am not going to talk about it, but #1 Hive is still up and going strong and #2 any arrests or investigations made of people on the board were unrelated to the postings.

I am sure that if you use google groups to search usenet, you will find a thread where someone will explain how Strike was a DEA agent all the time, and SA was a DEA front, etc - but you can also find threads that explain how the current Pope sold the Zyclon-B gas to the Nazis as part of the SMOM (Solvern Order of Malta, a branch of Freemasonry who guard the pope).

The truth is though that the arrests involving the Hive involved one isolated person whose junkie bimbo g/f ran her mouth about a specific lab, and another investigation of a specific author who owned a chemical supply store.

Nothing at all to do with the postings. Guess what - the people who hang out on a BBS dedicated to discussing manufacturing illegal drugs sometimes DO manufacture illegal drugs, and sometimes they get caught (or framed, in this case of course).

Check underground electronics boards out too - satellite hacking in particular.

I am in no way suggesting that we are safe discussing anything illegal, but what they used to do on Hive is discuss "Dreams" as in "Yesterday I had a dream that I had 250ml of MDP2P in a round-bottomed flask" or also they use SWIM as in SWIM has been looking for an alternate source of sodium for a Birch, since lithium is getting too expensive" where SWIM means Someone Who Isn't Me.

Take your pick - just be subtle. We aren't telling the feds anything they don't already know, as a general rule, especially with the new super-carnivore called DCS-1000 (look it up) crawling around on the net. Just make no directly incriminating statements, and don't post with your real name.

And if you can, use a proxy to get here. They are cheap as dirt nowdays, and can offer you a whole new layer of protection.



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