The Excedrin PM thing doesn't seem at all ridiculous. The PM stuff in that and Tylenol PM is called diphenydramine. I just get the pure tabs, which is all that Nytol and Sominex caplets are. That stuff will really knock your a$$ out. I usually rotate my sleep meds between benzos, somas, and diphenydramine. I've never had much luck with valerian, but many have. Melatonin would be another suggestion.