YEP, I have HAD all kinds of THAI & CHINESE D-BALL & WINSTROL. THE BEST I HAVE HAD IS THE ("SILVER DRAGON" PINK -D-BALL & THE "STANOL" WINSTROL FROM INTERPHARM.) EXCELLENT ORAL PRODUCT AT A GREAT PRICE. You really have to know your source for THAI STEROIDS - their are a TON OF FAKE PINK D-BALL OUT THERE! THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE SILVER DRAGON D-BALL /DRAGON ON ONE SIDE /SCORE ON OTHER /VERY STRONG!! NEW CONCEPT NOT REALLY ANY FAKES? OR SO I'VE HEARD FROM A TON OF BODYBUILDERS. GOOD LUCK, CHEESE