My last detox bout (ended today) I used nothing and after the stomach problems were gone it wasn't so bad the worst part was waking up in the morning because of the stiffness and the fact that I have meds in my house but just didn't take them. I usually take ultracet when I detox the hydro, I do it for many reasons but some never have and its not easy I wish it was but its good to go thorugh it if you can deal with the side effects. The ultracet worked perfectly and when I went back to lorcet it as powerful as I ever remember it and I do believe that has everything to do with tolerance issues..