That's what I do, every few weeks I stop taking hydro and take ultram for a few days. My tolerance doesn't go down as much as if I weren't taking anything at all during those few days, but it does go down. The more times you go through withdrawal, the worse the withdrawal symptoms get, and I can't stand not to take anything. To get all the way off everything without wd's, you just have to taper down a little more each day, and you can get all the way off. (Obviously, the less ultram you take, the more your tolerance will go down -- even though it technically isn't an opiate, it still contributes to tolerance).

I actually searched "Able Labs" and found this thread, because I just noticed that my pharmacy has switched from Mallie to Able, I didn't notice any difference but I wanted to see if anyone knew anything about Able. They seemed OK, but now that I know other people think they suck, they'll seem weaker to me, I know it. Psychology can be a terrible thing.