try the 10/650 lorcet then but as far as generic brands go for hydrocodone watson is the best..heh...u think those are bad try the malinkrodt aka malincrotch hehe..i like 10/500 best just the right dose of acita and the highest dose of hydrocodone....they also have 10/660 which are vicodin HP brand name or eneric the brand name are much better...quali seal or value seal are a good generic too and their out of brooklyn new york....best dope around....lol...